Jennifer: Today I have my friend Misty Marsh back on the show.
She's a good friend of mine, and I just want to go ahead and read her bio because I always like to read the bio of my guest even if they've been on before, which she has. She's my first repeat guest so that's how much I love her and how much value I feel like that she adds to the community. Let me go ahead and read her bio for those of you who do not know her. Misty Marsh is a mom of 4 kids, age 5 to 8 years old.
She is an emergency preparedness blogger. She believes everyone can and should work toward being better prepared for life's ups and downs, but knows that doesn't mean emergency preparedness has to take over your life. Through her blog, her e-books, and her e-courses, she teaches how to simplify emergency preparedness and she does that over at yourownhomestore.com. Welcome back, Misty. It's so good to have you back.
Misty: Thank you, Jennifer. It is always such a privilege to join your community in any way. It's such a well-run, well-rounded community. I love being with you, spending time with you.
Jennifer: Today we're going to talk about preparing on a budget. It takes money to buy preps, right? We're going to talk about that and I'm going to just kind of pick your brain about some of the things that we can do. Some of them might be common sense but a bet a lot of them are some things that people maybe haven't thought of. I'm just going to go down and ask you some questions and hopefully you can shed some light on this, because I know this is one of your specialties. First of all, again, for those who don't know you, could you just explain a little bit about yourself and your website and your mission?
Misty: Sure. On my website I teach about emergency preparedness, is the most basic way to talk about that. There's 2 things that I believe make my site a little bit unique. One is that I like to bring faith into the idea of preparedness, as opposed to fear. In addition I like to simplify. As mentioned in my bio, I don't think emergency preparedness should overtake your life or be the central part of your life. We need to live and enjoy life, but we also need to be ready for when negative things might happen in our life. My goal is to help people do that through small and simple steps.
Jennifer: Like I said, I'm just going to pick your brain here. We're talking about affording preparedness, right. This is kind of a weird subject really because when you think of preparedness, you think of emergencies and you think of "Okay, well, I need to do this" and whatever, but you don't really think of being able to afford it.
You don't really think of ... How should we be talking about this? I mean, it's kind of simple. You just go to the store and you buy an extra first aid kit or something like that. We're talking a little bit more than just going, like I said, to then buying a couple of extra cans of beans or an extra first aid kit. We're talking about having a plan, right. Tell us a little bit about why we need to address the financial part.
Misty: Well, first, it certainly starts with what we're talking about, an extra can of beans or a few extra supplies for our first aid kit. I think if we think of everything that we might need to do, we can sometimes get overwhelmed and not start at all. That's one way to afford it, is to take these small little steps. The reason that it's important is because there are things. Food costs money. Supplies ... If you needed to, for instance, cook without power, without electricity, do you have a tool that will allow you to do that?
Some people do simply in a barbecue. Then the next step is do you have propane for that barbecue grill, or charcoal? Once you get started, it does seem to create this list of all this stuff and all these things that you need, and that can quite quickly become overwhelming and people will start to think, "I don't have the money for this. It might not ever happen so I'm not going to worry about it." Addressing that in the way that yes, you can afford it and here's how, is important to keep people moving along the path.
Jennifer: Okay. Then having a plan and addressing this subject ... Okay, so how important is it to have a budget? If something is on sale and should I just go buy it or should I just strictly stick to my budget? How important is it to actually do the planning and then be able to have goals and that sort of thing?
Misty: I believe it's essential. I found in my own life over the last ... I've been married now for almost 12 years ... That at the times when we've actually stuck to a budget, we've found, not literally obviously, but we've suddenly found and been surprised at oh, we have a little more money than we thought we had. It's because we're sticking very strictly to that budget.
Every single month we mess up and there's areas where we go over or under, but having those goals and that structure allows you to then make a decision. Do I want to go over my budget this month because of this sale? That means I'll have to spend less on clothing this month. Do I want to make that choice? It allows you to be conscientious about those choices so that your choices are more beneficial for your family.
Jennifer: Okay, that makes a lot of sense. It really does. Oh, I want to say hi to Tracy. She's just joined us and so hello, Tracy. What if you still can't do it, even if you have a budget? What if you still can't do it? What do you say to people who tell you that?
Misty: That most certainly happens. I believe that in the vast majority of cases, a budget will help you find a little extra money, even if that's only 5 or 10 dollars a month. There are situations, and I've been there before when my husband was out of work and we just didn't have a penny to spare, and there are still things you can do in that situation. One is we decided to use any non-budget money, such as gifts that we got from people, cash back on credit cards, anything like that that just came in unexpectedly, we decided we were going to put that towards being prepared for emergencies.
Other things that you can do and I kind of have a list here, so I'm going to look over it on my right so that I have everything. Some of these things take sacrifice, but consider using a dumb phone instead of a smart phone. Use Amazon Prime or Netflix instead of cable. Brown bag it for lunch instead of eating out. Go for walks and runs outside instead of a gym membership. Make your own cleaning products instead of buying them.
Make sure that you're making all your payments on time so that you can banish those late fees. Buy clothing at secondhand stores. Swap clothing with friends and neighbors. Swap babysitting instead of paying a sitter. If you brainstorm you can think of things like this that yes, might take sacrifice but that can bring in an extra dollar or 2 or 10 every month. I'm not talking about huge amounts. The consistency is more important than really the amount.
Jennifer: I love those ideas. Some of those I haven't thought of before. That's really great. Okay, so you have a budget, right, and you take the time and you go through it and you're looking at it. Maybe you're used to budgeting even, but not used to prepping, right.
You put your budget in front of you and you go, "Well, gosh, I don't have any wiggle room. I have nowhere to go." You just listed several things where you could cut corners. Could you kind of give us some suggestions about how to look at your budget and say, "Okay, is this necessary or not necessary?" What things would you ask that about when you're looking at your budget?
Misty: Absolutely. Some of those things that we went through on the list ... Do I need new clothes or could I humble myself, go to my neighbor and say, "Hey, you have a child who's 2 years old than mine and then 5 years down the road I have one that's older than yours. Can we swap clothes and I'll give you my used clothes, you give me my used clothes?" I think that there are ways that you can do that. I think the biggest question to ask ourselves is "Am I being humble enough? Do I really need everything that's in my budget?"
If you go through every line or your budget that way, I think you'll be able to tell the difference between a need and a want and hopefully then prioritize those wants. It's okay to have a few wants, right? You can choose which ones that you're willing and able to cut by looking at it that way. Is this really a need or is this just something I want? In addition to that there are things you can do that aren't involved that don't maybe take money from your budget. Do you want me to mention or talk about some of those here?
Jennifer: Sure. Sure.
Misty: Okay. Things you can do with making things. A lot of the things that Jennifer teaches through her community and her classes and just the self reliant living attitude, can help you make a lot of things instead of spending the money on purchasing. You're spending time instead of spending money, but in some situations that's very smart. Borrowing things and sharing things.
One thing, there is a lot of bigger ticket items sometimes that people want when they're working on emergency preparedness, like a grain mill or a sun oven. These things cost hundreds of dollars. One option there is to split it between 2 or 3 or 5 people in your community. Say, "Hey, we're going to group buy a grain mill and you'll get it on Mondays and I'll get it on Tuesdays and you get it on Wednesdays," and that can help relieve some of the pressure in your budget.
In addition in my neighborhood we have a Facebook group that is only for the purpose of trading goods. We don't sell anything. We simply say, "Hey, I no longer need this bed frame. Would someone like it?" We're able to trade things that way so even if we're not talking about emergency preparedness, we can save money in other areas of our budget which then allow us to put money towards this. If you don't have a Facebook group or don't have the means to set one up like that, the website Freecycle is something similar that's on a larger scale.
Jennifer: Yeah. That's great. Well, I love what you're saying about the budget. You just go through and each thing, you ask yourself is this a need or is this a want. I love that. I do that constantly with my own budget so I know how that goes. I want to say hi to Rhonda. Yes, better late than never. I'm so glad you're here. Valerie, I'm so glad you're here as well.
Then you were talking about just a minute ago, okay, so some of these DIY skills. Okay, so you always hear that skills versus things. I mean, but you need some things, right? How do you strike a balance? Is it just based on budget? How do you do that? How do you teach people to do that?
Misty: If we're talking about a situation where you do have some money that you could choose to budget for an emergency preparedness, I think first you need to decide what you're preparing for. That's an essential step that I think a lot of people skip. They try to prepare for everything and all at once. Decide what am I trying to prepare for. Is it a natural disaster? Is it a national disaster? Is it a job loss? What is the most likely thing that's going to happen to me?
Then that can help you decide for that event, do I need stuff or do I need skills? Do I need both? Which is most likely the answer. You can create that list of stuff. For some disasters you might not need a list of 50 things, but you need a list of 50 skills. I think that that can help you kind of find that balance. No matter what stuff you buy, there is a skill that you will need in order to use that stuff.
You can buy a sun oven and let it sit in your storage room for years and never use it, and then when you have to, it doesn't do you any good. One other way I suggest people pace themselves is don't buy anything that you're not willing to learn how to use. If you're going to buy a sun oven, buy it, learn to use it, and don't buy anything else until you know how to use that item and that can kind of pace you and keep that balance between those 2 things.
Jennifer: I love that. Shelley says that she knits for a lady who makes her spins for her own yarn and then she pays me in homemade soaps, teas, and salves, or yarn to make my own ... I love that. That's great, Shelley. Yeah, I love what you were saying about that in terms of skills versus things and that to only buy something if you are willing to spend the time to learn how to use it.
That's really great advice there. What if you are at the point, though, where you do need stuff? I mean, we've talked about some of these things like Freecycle because, like you said, that's a great website, and then even starting your own Facebook group where you trade things. Do you have more ideas about how to do stuff for free in terms of bartering with other people, maybe even some hints about how to do that?
Because it's kind of thinking outside the box, right? It's not something that you would go up to a stranger and say, "Hey, I'll trade you my kids' clothes if you give me some soap," or whatever it is. How do you start that kind of conversation with somebody and, like I said, ideas about more things that are free? We love free.
Misty: Yes, for sure. We need to not be afraid to build communities where we live, and I mean beyond virtual communities. We're great in this day and age, if you want to call it that, at social communities, but we need to be willing to get out and go on a walk and meet our neighbors and become friends with them because when that happens, then it's much easier to say, "Hey, I need this and I have this skill." Who was it that was saying? Was it Nancy that's making a trade?
Misty: Shelley. Situations like that will happen more naturally as you get to know people and you think, "Oh, they have this skill and I have this skill and we have these needs." Those conversations can happen more naturally. They're not going to happen, like you said, with a stranger. It's not something you're going to bring up randomly to random people. I think we need to be more willing to get out and put ourselves out there and get to know people.
Misty: In addition, I have found fantastic finds and I have many readers who will email me or text me and say, "I found this or that at secondhand stores, thrift stores, and things like that." You'll be surprised at how many people bought something like a wheat grinder and never used it, never learned the skill of how, and eventually just got rid of it. You'll find things like that there. Garage sales, yard sales, if you're willing ... Again, it takes time instead of money to invest and finding those kind of deals.
Jennifer: Yes. I agree. Yeah, and I did that. I did that when I was younger, because I have always done things myself and I've always aspired to do things myself, but I did not come from a family that did that, and so I had to learn a lot of things on my own. I remember when I was really younger, first married, I bought a canning set. I was going to learn how to use it. I was just going to learn how to use it.
It sat for a really long time and I did not learn how to use it and eventually we sold it. We sold it at a garage sale or something. Then of course a couple years later I was like, "Hmm, I should not have done that. I should've learned to use it right there and then." I did. I mean, I found the money to buy another one and I did. I learned right away. Let's see. Rhonda is saying that "I have chickens and I often barter fresh eggs for fresh produce," and she loves shopping at the thrift store.
I think that's something that, I think, still has a little bit of a negative connotation to some people, thrift stores. It's not like an old grungy sort of army surplus store. They are really nice and some of them are even upscale, so I would really recommend at least checking those out if you never have before. Okay, and so you guys are talking amongst yourself and I am so grateful to have everybody join us. That's just wonderful.
Like I said, I feel like we're just part of a community here having a conversation. Misty, tell me about some of the things that you recommend, right. That is never paying full price. I love that. I love that idea. Then also asking for a deal. What do you mean asking for a deal? Yeah, I can't walk into my local box store and say, "Hey, I think this is too expensive. Can you lower the price?" I mean, or can you? I don't know. Can you tell us what you mean by that?
Misty: Most of the time I'm talking about online retailers. Specifically when we're talking about these emergency preparedness products, many of them are ... For instance, I sell certain products, but I am limited as to what I can advertise those products for. I cannot advertise them for below a certain price in order to make the playing field, the competition fair for everybody.
If someone were to call me directly, privately, or email me privately and say, "Hey, I'm looking at getting this. What's the best price that you could offer me?" I can privately lower that price. Obviously I'd make less money that way, but depending on who you're talking to they may be willing to do that. In addition I have done that with all of my utilities. With cell phone, TV, all of those things I will call those providers and say, "Hey, I'm looking to lower my monthly budget, my bills."
Almost every single time they're willing to. Because they'd rather make something than nothing off their TV subscription or your cell phone plan, and I'm able to kind of lower our bills that way. In addition, even if somebody can't give you a deal, even if they legally can't or they won't or they can't afford to, they usually can tell you when and how to find those products for lower prices. For instance, I know certain preparedness companies have their biggest sales in October. Certain have their biggest sales in November.
I can tell people those things. Then they could say, "Okay, I'll wait 'til November. I'm going to save up and I'll purchase this product or this type of food at that time." Finding a salesperson or a retailer, even if you were to go into a big box type store, you could say, "Hey, I need a TV." Even if we're not talking about preparedness money. "When's the best time to buy that?" They'll probably tell you. Then you can make plans in your budget around the answers that you get so that you're not ever paying full price for things.
Jennifer: I love that idea. Another thing that I'm always kind of preaching is that you need to shop seasonally, and then if you know the certain seasons like your example about certain produce or whatever is in season, you can stock up, you can preserve, and then you've got that in preserved form for the entire year. If you are aware of those cycles then you have a leg up. I mean, that's just-
Jennifer: Yeah. Okay, so if you are just joining us, welcome. Be sure to stay through to the end so we can tell you a little bit about how we can give you even more help on this subject. Okay, so Misty, what about grocery store coupons? What about the coupon game type of extreme couponing? What's your take on that? Do you recommend people do that so they can get preparedness items? Because I know that sometimes you can get first aid stuff. Sometimes you can get toiletries or cleaning stuff, cleaning supplies products. What's your take on that?
Misty: It's funny you should ask. I think we have similar histories here. My business actually started 9 years ago because I built a computer program to track grocery prices and coupons. I would invite people to use that computer program to save money. At the time my husband was in law school. We had 3 and a half kids. Well, that was a little bit later on but we were strapped. In all honesty, it was good at that point. We were able to buy a lot of canned goods.
The food wasn't super healthy but it was food and we were able to stock up on it for very little. We were able to get diapers for next to nothing. We were able to get some of the other items you mentioned. Yes, I do believe there is a place for that. For me at this point I've moved a little bit past it because the food that you can get through couponing doesn't tend to be the healthiest.
We're in a place now where I can afford to spend more than $50 a week on food. I still believe it's good for some of the other items you mentioned: toiletries, medicines, first aid things. Where that comes into play is specifically at drug stores. You can get a lot of those items for free but once again, it is a large investment of your time.
You have to look at your life and say, "Do I have more time or more money to spend?" If the answer is time like it was for me 8, 9, 10 years ago, then do that and save yourself hundreds of dollars on those products. That's kind of my take there, that yes, there are situations where it can be helpful and even the food you can get is better than no food, but it does take an enormous amount of time.
Jennifer: It does. I agree. I think you're right. We did start in similar situations because I used to do the extreme coupon thing and I don't anymore, for those reasons. Then also another reason is that if you do do that ... It does work for some people, just like you said. It does work, especially if you have a younger family and you're just starting out.
You also have to have a place to store a lot of these things. You have to have room to store preps anyway, right? You can look at that as your grocery store, prepping, and storage, but then what if you do have something like a sun oven or something like that? Then what are you going to store? Because you have a limited amount of space. I think that being a little bit more fair, I guess, with all of the different preparedness items.
Then of course, like you were saying, it's difficult to get healthier food with coupons. I think it does work for some people but maybe not everybody. That's really good to know that I'm not alone there. Okay. What if none of this stuff is enough? You've done everything you could to the budget. You don't have time to coupon. When is it time to either look at ways to make more money or get a second job? When is it time to do that and how do you go about doing that?
Misty: I don't think it always requires a second job. Although that's an option for some people. I think you need to look at your family. Is having a second job, what's that going to do to your relationships? That kind of goes back to my feelings of emergency preparedness should never take your life. If you're only getting a second job so that you can buy a few extra preps, you know what?
Then take a step back, have a little bit of faith in God he will help you if you're doing your best, and make sure that you don't damage those relationships. If you need the money in order to be able to pay rent and eat food, that's a completely different story. I think you need to kind of look at your own situation and decide where your priorities are. There are other ways that you can make small amounts of money that you can put towards emergency preparedness items.
You can have a garage sale. Go through your house. I guarantee everybody can probably find things they can sell at a garage sale. If you have a lot of the skills that Jennifer teaches about, these homemaking skills, you can make things and sell them on websites such as Etsy. It's not going to bring in a full-time income for most people, but it'll bring in a little wiggle room.
You can offer child care, pet care, yard care, things like that that may take a few hours a week and wouldn't necessarily be considered a full second job, but it's a good balance in between there that you have some skills that you can offer people. Can you sew? Can you mend? Think about those self reliant skills that you're gaining through Jennifer's community or that you already have, and how can you market those in small or large ways without actually having to go out and work a 9 to 5 or a 5 to midnight job.
Jennifer: Yeah. Just like a second stream of income. We're always preaching that because yeah, you just never know. That is, to me, a preparedness move in and of itself. If you have something that is bringing in a little bit on the side, then if something does happen you've still got that. I feel like that's a move in the right direction there. Reuben is saying that "I would love to add couponing to my plate but it's pretty full right now." Yeah, it's a lot of work. It really is.
Valerie is saying, "I never buy new towels, washcloth, or napkins. I make my own new washcloths out of old towels, napkins out of old t-shirts with holes." I love that idea, so sort of recycling things. That's wonderful, Valerie. Okay. Let me just ask you this because we're fixing to enter the season where you buy everything under the sun, or at least it's tempting to, right. How do you recommend staying on your budget through the holiday season?
Misty: Many of you may have heard of the envelope system, where you pull out a certain amount of cash ... I don't live that way for my budget every single month, but for larger purchases, a vacation, Christmas, I find it to be helpful. I have set X amount for Christmas. I pull that amount out in cash, I put it in an envelope, and that's all I'm allowed to spend. Sometimes that can be hard if you're trying to purchase things online.
Jennifer: Oh, Valerie's saying that she loves the envelope system. Yes, I do too. I love it, too. It really helps with, like Misty was saying, the bigger purchases. It also gives me motivation because I see the money going in there and I'm like, "Oh, I'm almost there. I'm almost there," so I love that. Sorry. Misty, you were saying?
Misty: No. In addition there's a system that I love online. It's called Ynab (You Need A Budget). It's an app on my phone that connects to my computer and my husband's phone. It's not exactly like the envelope system but it's similar. It forces me to ... I mean, it's a budget. I see I have X amount in Christmas and if I go negative, well, I've got to take it out of a different budget.
It forces that same kind of concept, that "Oh, I'm getting to the end of this here. I don't have anymore. I've got to be careful," and that can help a little bit if you're trying to make online purchases, which particularly around ... I don't love going to stores on Black Friday. I like to stay at home. There are great online deals. If you can take advantage of those for Christmas, sometimes you can stretch your budget a bit further.
Jennifer: I love that idea. Yeah, I love the online deals, too. That is becoming my favorite because nobody wants to go and fight other people. Oh, I guess some people do because they do it every year but it would not be me.
Misty: I guess some people do, too, but not me.
Jennifer: Okay, so let's talk a little bit about meal planning and staying on a budget. Something that I'm always preaching is food rotation, that I wanted to get your take on that and how you feel about that.
Misty: Yeah. We have a large stock of food in our house. When I plan a meal, I plan based on what we already have at home. At this point we have pretty much everything for all of our meals at home between our dry food storage and our frozen food storage. What helps is I never have to go out and buy chicken breast at 4 or 5 or 6 dollars a pound because I bought a lot of it when it was on sale for $1.59 a pound. I started this years ago when we had a very small budget, in fact when I was couponing.
I would buy only what was on sale for really low prices and then I would plan our meals around those items. Instead of buying just enough for that meal, I would buy twice as much or 3 times as much so that in 2 or 3 weeks when there weren't great sales for what I wanted to make, I could use what I already had in stock. That forces me to then rotate through the food that I have so it doesn't go bad, but it also allows me to take advantage of deals that might have happened weeks or months ago.
Jennifer: Reuben is saying that "I raise my own chickens for meat." Rhonda says, "My meal planning helps but it's easy to get overwhelmed." It really is easy to get overwhelmed. Yeah, I recommend definitely that you take it step by step and maybe have a planner, something that you write things down in.
Then the great thing about doing that is that you can re-use those plans, right. You plan for a couple of weeks and then you can re-use, recycle them, and go back and ... Because by then it's several weeks out and you can have the same thing again and then you can grow your list that way. I love doing that and I highly recommend doing that. Joy says, "My family is long distance so I buy gifts on Amazon with Prime so I don't have to pay shipping." That's a great tip for Christmas gifts.
Then Misty saying Cyber Monday. Yes, I couldn't think of it, Cyber Monday, but that's what that is that I love. Okay. Misty, we've gone through all of this stuff and there is really great advice and really something to think about. What if you look at your budget and you go, "I just cannot make this work? I am in debt and I need to pay off some things." Is there a program or something that is one of your favorites that you would recommend?
Misty: Honestly, I have never personally used a program. I don't know that I feel qualified to recommend one. A have a lot of friends and family who have used Dave Ramsey. I knew his general advice and I like it. The idea behind paying your small steps off first, and then paying the next smallest and the next smallest. The idea behind having a budget. I think that also, in all honesty, humility and prayer help a lot in simply saying, "I want to make a change. I want to have a better financial foundation."
What's my next step and do I need to get another job? Do I need to spend less? Do I need to invest in one of these programs that claims to help? I think thinking through that can help you realize what's best for you. What is this next small step that I can make to improve my financial situation so that I can afford things, whether that's emergency preparedness or a family vacation or food on the table?
Jennifer: Right, right. I love Dave Ramsey, too. I think another thing that, it helps me whenever I am looking at finances or food, whatever it is I'm looking at, is that ... Especially if I'm trying to make a big change, I don't say, "Okay, well, tomorrow it's going to be different." I take it slower than that and say, "Okay, well, tomorrow I'm going to look at this. Then the next day I'm going to look at this and then I'm going to put it all together and sort of make a plan for making a plan."
Because if you start, I think, 8:00 at night and you go, "Well, tomorrow it's all going to change," I feel like that's overwhelming. I know that helps me to say, okay, if I take a couple of days, a week, whatever, that I need to look at this and brainstorm some ideas, I think that that certainly helps me anyway. I know that some people do that. They get so excited and they're like, "Tomorrow it's all going to change," and it doesn't happen quite overnight like that.
Misty: No goals happen that way. We have to set a large goal and then the in between little steps that are going to get us to that-
Jennifer: Exactly. Exactly. Okay, so Rhonda says, "This is how I shop. I bought 5 turkey breasts this week because they were so cheap. The holidays are covered." That's good. That's a great find. What a blessing. Let's see. Rhonda's also saying David Ramsey is great, his university is great. Valerie says, "Ebates is good but only if you use them in the stores that you go to," so that's what basically she's saying. Okay, so yeah, this is great.
I love that you guys are participating in the conversation. It just makes me feel so, like I said, part of the community. It's absolutely my favorite time of the week. Thank you so much, Misty, for coming and shedding light on this subject. I know this is your specialty. Can you tell people again, where they can find you and how they can connect with you, your website, your Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, all of those things where you are so people can connect to you?
Misty: Absolutely. I have a website. It is Your Own Home Store. The idea behind it is that you have a store of goods in your own home. Yourownhomestore.com. You can find links there to my various social media platforms. I'm most active on Facebook and Pinterest. Then you can also sign up there to receive ... I have 18 free pages for a grab-and-go binder that you can download and print and put into a binder.
Then I also follow that up with a 2-week evacuation e-course that's kind of based on those pages and what you need to do in order to be able to communicate with and find and gather your family if you're faced with an evacuation situation. There's one aspect of emergency preparedness. You can join that list and then once you've gone through that course, I'll stay connected with you through weekly tips and updates and things like that.
Jennifer: You have also a Facebook group? Is that open to everybody or is that just-
Misty: Yes, it's called Simply Prepared with Your Own Home Store. If you go to my main Facebook page you can find links to it there.
Misty: If you do join my email list there's a direct link in the welcome email there, as well.
Jennifer: Awesome. Then maybe we can put it in the show notes, as well. That would be great. Thank you so much again, Misty, for joining us.
Misty: Thank you for having me. It's always a privilege.
Jennifer: Okay, so I mentioned midway through that we were going to give you some more information to help save money and do these DIY things and get started with those. If you go to selfreliantschool.com/free, it should be up on the screen, then you can get some free videos and there is one on canning, there's one on dehydrating, there's one on home brewing. There might be another one there, too. We keep adding to that. Be sure and check those out.
These are free videos. They are my gift to you. Then also, just like Misty said, you could go to yourownhomestore.com. You can enter your email address there. She has a place at the top of her website, and you can get weekly preparedness tips and printables. Right now she's got an 18-page grab-and-go binder and a 2-week evacuation e-course, so that is definitely worth grabbing. Remember that being self reliant is not just about you or being selfish or anything like that. It is about taking care of yourself so that you can take care of the ones that you love. Take care until we talk again.